Payouts vs. Refunds vs. Income
Money can come into your trading business from different sources. Understanding the distinctions helps you interpret your finances accurately.
The Three Types of "Money In"
1. Payouts
What it is: Profit share from funded account trading
Source: Funded Accounts module
Example: You trade a prop firm account, make profit, and receive your 80% share.
Key characteristic: This is earned revenue—money you generated through successful trading.
2. Refunds
What it is: Money returned to you
Source: Challenges or Funded Accounts module
Example: You pass a challenge and the prop firm refunds your evaluation fee.
Key characteristic: This is cost recovery—getting back money you previously spent.
3. Income
What it is: General business income not from prop trading
Source: Transactions module
Example: Coaching payments, affiliate commissions, course sales.
Key characteristic: Business revenue from activities other than trading prop firm accounts.
Why the Distinction Matters
For Accurate Business Understanding
If you see "Money In: $20,000" you want to know:
How much came from actual trading profit (payouts)?
How much was just getting your own money back (refunds)?
How much came from other activities (income)?
Example:
Payouts: $12,000 (trading revenue)
Refunds: $6,000 (challenge fees returned)
Income: $2,000 (coaching)
Your trading actually generated $12,000. The $6,000 in refunds recovered costs you spent on challenges. The $2,000 is separate business income.
For Tax Purposes
Different income types may have different tax treatments:
Trading income: Might be business income or capital gains
Refunds: Typically reduce your expenses rather than add income
Other income: Standard business income
Consult a tax professional for proper classification.
For Evaluating Performance
True trading performance comes from payouts. If most of your "Money In" is refunds, you're recovering costs—not necessarily profitable.
How They're Categorized
Payouts
Created in Funded Accounts module
Status must be "Approved"
Directly tied to a specific funded account
Represents your profit share
Refunds
Created in Challenges or Funded Accounts module
Typically challenge fee refunds or account credits
Returns money you previously paid
Reduces your net costs
Income
Created in Transactions module
Type set to "Income"
Not connected to prop firm accounts
General business revenue
Where They Appear
Dashboard
All three appear in "Money In" but may be broken down:
Total Money In: Combined
Breakdown available (payouts, refunds, income)
Reports
Income Report: Lists all three types
Annual Summary: Shows subtotals by type
Module Views
Payouts appear in Funded Accounts
Refunds appear where they were created
Income appears in Transactions
The Refund Distinction in Detail
Refunds are often misunderstood. Here's the key concept:
Refunds are not profit. They're cost recovery.
The refund in the third scenario doesn't add to your profit—it just zeroes out the cost. The $3,000 payout is your actual earnings.
Dashboard Health Calculation
When the Dashboard calculates business health:
Money In = Payouts + Refunds + Income Money Out = Challenge Costs + Expenses Net Result = Money In − Money Out
Refunds contribute to Money In, which helps offset challenge costs in Money Out. This is mathematically correct—getting a refund improves your net position.
Practical Example
Year Summary:
Interpretation:
Trading generated $25,000 in revenue
You recovered $3,000 of costs through refunds
Other business activities added $5,000
You spent $10,000 on challenges and $5,000 on expenses
Your business netted $18,000 profit
The $3,000 refund means your net challenge spending was $7,000, not $10,000.
Best Practices
Track All Three Separately
Record each in its correct module so categorization is accurate.
Don't Confuse Refunds with Profit
When analyzing performance, focus on payouts for trading revenue.
Use Reports to Understand Mix
Review Income Reports to see the breakdown of where money came from.
Next: Challenge Costs vs. Expenses →