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Recording Challenge Costs and Refunds

Recording Challenge Costs and Refunds

Tracking challenge costs accurately is essential for understanding your trading business profitability. This article covers how costs and refunds are recorded and calculated.

Understanding Challenge Costs

When you purchase a prop firm evaluation, that's a business cost. The money leaves your account and goes to the prop firm in exchange for the opportunity to prove yourself.

What Counts as a Challenge Cost

Initial purchase price: The amount you paid when buying the challenge. This is the primary cost.

Add-ons: Some firms offer add-ons like:

  • Account scaling options

  • Profit split upgrades

  • Extended time limits

  • Insurance and reset options

If purchased with the challenge, include these in the total cost.

Subscription fees: Some firms bill in installments instead of one upfront payment — for example, $99 to start, then $99 a month while the challenge is active. If your challenge works this way, set its Billing Type to Subscription when you add it, and log each payment as it happens directly on the challenge (see below). Don't track these as separate general Transactions — keeping them on the challenge itself is what lets the platform total your real cost correctly and show it in the right month.

Where Costs Appear

Challenge costs flow into the system like this:

  1. You enter the cost when creating the challenge

  2. The platform records it as a challenge cost entry

  3. It feeds the Money Out side of your Dashboard

  4. It also shows in the Challenge Costs KPI card

Your monthly P&L calendar will show months where you purchased challenges — or paid a subscription installment — as having higher costs, in the month the payment was actually made.

Recording the Initial Cost

When you add a new challenge, there's a field for "Purchase Cost" or "Cost":

  1. Enter the total amount paid

  2. Select the correct currency

  3. The cost is recorded with the challenge

If you paid in multiple transactions or the price changed, enter the final total amount.

Updating Costs Later

If you need to change the cost after creating a challenge:

  1. Open the challenge detail drawer

  2. Navigate to the Financials tab (if available) or Overview

  3. Edit the cost amount

  4. Save changes

The system will update to reflect the corrected amount.

Understanding the Financials Tab: Upfront vs. Subscription

The Financials tab on a challenge shows the same layout whether it's billed Upfront or as a Subscription:

Row

What it means

Upfront Cost

The one-time fee (Upfront billing), or the rate of the first payment (Subscription billing)

Monthly Fee

The recurring rate per billing cycle (Subscription only)

Total Billed To Date / Total Challenge Cost

The real running total — the sum of every payment actually logged in Transaction History below

Total Refunds

Sum of refunds recorded against this challenge

Net Challenge Cost

Total Challenge Cost minus Total Refunds

Upfront Cost and Monthly Fee describe your pricing plan, they are not extra amounts added on top of your Transaction History. For a Subscription challenge, your first payment (whatever the Upfront Cost field says) is already one of the rows in Transaction History. Total Challenge Cost is simply the sum of those logged rows — never "Upfront Cost + everything else," which would count your first payment twice.

Example: a Subscription challenge with Upfront Cost $99 and Monthly Fee $99, with two payments logged (February and March, $99 each). Total Challenge Cost is $198 — the sum of the two logged rows — not $99 + $198 = $297.

Understanding Refunds

Refunds are money you receive back from a prop firm. They might occur because:

  • You passed the challenge and the firm refunds the fee

  • The firm offers a refund policy you qualified for

  • A promotional refund or credit

  • Account cancellation with partial refund

The Key Point About Refunds

Refunds are cost recoveries, not income.

This matters across the whole platform. When you receive a refund:

  • It reduces your net cost for that challenge

  • It doesn't count as revenue or profit

  • It's essentially getting your own money back

Think of it this way: if you spent $500 on a challenge and got a $500 refund, you didn't make $500, you broke even on that challenge.

Recording a Refund

Refunds are recorded on the Funded Account, not on the Challenge itself. A challenge only converts into a Funded Account once it's passed — refunds are entered there, on that account's Financials tab:

  1. Open the Funded Account linked to the challenge

  2. Navigate to the Financials tab

  3. Look for "Add Refund" or similar option

  4. Enter:

  • Refund amount

  • Date received

  • Notes (why you received it)

  1. Save

The platform ties this refund back to the originating challenge, and the challenge's Net Challenge Cost decreases accordingly. You'll see the refund reflected on the Challenge's own Financials tab as well, even though it was entered on the Funded Account.

A challenge that Failed and never converted to a Funded Account cannot have a refund recorded against it — there's no linked account for the refund to attach to. If you've received money back on a challenge that never converted, this isn't currently supported; contact support if this comes up.

Net Challenge Cost

For any challenge, the net cost is:

Net Cost = Original Cost − Refunds Received

For example:

  • Challenge cost: $500

  • Refund received: $500

  • Net cost: $0

This net cost is what truly impacts your profitability.

When a Refund Is Bigger Than the Cost

Occasionally a refund exceeds the original challenge cost — some firms refund the fee and add a bonus for passing. When this happens, Net Challenge Cost goes positive and displays in green, since the challenge turned into a net gain rather than a cost. Total Challenge Cost itself always stays as the real gross amount you paid — it never goes negative or gets reduced by the refund. Only Net Challenge Cost reflects the refund.

Example: Total Challenge Cost $550, refund received $650. Total Challenge Cost still shows $550. Net Challenge Cost shows $100.00, in green.

Where Refunds Appear

Refunds show up in a few places, and the way they're displayed depends on where you're looking:

Challenge Detail. The Financials tab shows both cost and refunds, plus the net total. Total Challenge Cost always stays gross.

Dashboard KPIs and totals. Refunds reduce your challenge cost totals. They are not added to income, payouts, or any revenue figure.

Money In vs. Money Out chart. This one chart on the Dashboard is the only place refunds appear on the Money In side. That's because it's a gross cash direction view, showing every dollar that physically moved into or out of your accounts. It's not a revenue chart, so refunds belong on the inbound side there. Everywhere else, refunds reduce expense totals.

Reports (Income Report, Expense Report, Annual Tax Summary). Refunds appear as negative expense rows in the Expense Report, reducing your total challenge cost. They never appear in the Income Report and they are not listed alongside payouts. The Annual Tax Summary shows challenge costs already net of refunds.

This consistency, refunds reducing expenses rather than adding to income, is the only way to keep your trading business numbers accurate. Treating a refund as income would inflate revenue and inflate costs at the same time, throwing off both numbers.

Common Scenarios

Passed Challenge with Fee Refund

Many firms refund the challenge fee when you pass and convert to a funded account. Record this refund on the Funded Account after you receive it, not when you pass, but when the money hits your account.

Failed Challenge, No Refund

Most failed challenges don't receive refunds. The cost stays on your records as part of the investment required to eventually get funded.

Failed Challenge, Never Converted

If a challenge fails and never converts to a Funded Account, no refund can be recorded against it in the platform, even if the firm happens to return some money. This is expected behavior, not a bug — the refund workflow lives on the Funded Account.

Partial Refund

Some firms offer partial refunds in certain situations. Record whatever amount you actually received.

Multiple Refunds

If you receive a refund in parts, record each separately. The total will accumulate.

Tracking Costs Over Time

Your Dashboard shows:

  • Total challenge costs for the selected period

  • Monthly breakdown in the P&L calendar

  • Comparison to revenue (payouts)

Over time, you want to see total payouts exceeding total challenge costs. This means your funded accounts are generating more revenue than you're spending on evaluations.

A healthy trading business might look like:

  • Challenge costs: $3,000

  • Payouts: $10,000

  • Net: +$7,000

An unhealthy pattern might show:

  • Challenge costs: $5,000

  • Payouts: $1,000

  • Net: -$4,000

The Challenges module helps you track the cost side of this equation.


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